{"id":27092,"date":"2012-03-06T13:06:05","date_gmt":"2012-03-06T18:06:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/cardioexchange\/?post_type=voices&#038;p=27092"},"modified":"2012-03-08T11:30:31","modified_gmt":"2012-03-08T16:30:31","slug":"another-round-in-the-debate-on-diabetes-and-statins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/cardioexchange\/2012\/03\/06\/another-round-in-the-debate-on-diabetes-and-statins\/","title":{"rendered":"Another Round in the Debate on Diabetes and Statins"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let me start by saying that I am proud to have Eric Topol as a friend and a trusted advisor over the past 20 years. His work has been an inspiration to cardiovascular health professionals for several decades. His new book, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/creativedestructionofmedicine.com\/\">The Creative Destruction of Medicine: How the Digital Revolution Will Create Better Health Care,<\/a><\/em> should be required reading by all physicians and in all medical schools. It is simply that good.<\/p>\n<p>Eric is a strong believer that we need to have more personalized medicine. I agree. I predict that he and his research group will lead the way to help us understand why certain people benefit more from certain medications and others may not. So far, the only ways we have to decide which asymptomatic persons would benefit from statin therapy are the traditional risk factors which make up the Framingham risk score, hsCRP, and coronary calcium measurements. Both of the latter two tests have been given a class IIa indication from the AHA for use in intermediate risk adults (Framingham score of 10-20% risk of an MI over the next decade.)<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Statins and Diabetes: Real Concern or Much Ado About Nothing?\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/cardioexchange\/news\/statins-and-diabetes-real-concern-or-much-ado-about-nothing\/\">Eric is concerned about the apparent increased risk of diabetes with statin use.<\/a> A 2010 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thelancet.com\/journals\/lancet\/article\/PIIS0140-6736(09)61965-6\/abstract\">meta-analysis in the <em>Lancet<\/em><\/a> found about a 10% increased risk in statin users. Eric rightly points out that the relative risk was higher with the more potent rosuvastatin in JUPITER. Yet, that is where we saw a\u00a0 significant decrease in total mortality and the largest relative risk reduction in CVD events.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Topol is one of the country\u2019s leading geneticists and thought-leaders. He may be an invited guest to Stockholm in the next decade to accept a great award. If that is the case, I would like to be on his invitation list.<\/p>\n<p>No one is right all the time \u2013 just ask my wife. We know that chlorthalidone reduces clinical events and reduces mortality in persons with a systolic blood pressure greater than 160 but it also raises blood sugar. We also know that niacin raised blood sugar in the Coronary Drug Project, but it reduced events and mortality as a single agent.<\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t know why certain adults go from a glucose of 115-125 and then go over that magic 125 threshold more frequently. Though this has not been published, I have been told by several statin investigators that the vast majority of the persons who crossed the 125 line were\u00a0clearly\u00a0insulin resistant with glucoses between 115-125. We are not talking about going from a glucose of 90 to 140!<\/p>\n<p>Before we throw out the NCEP guidelines on primary prevention, I think that we need to be more skeptical of the diabetes fear from statins. The benefit is very clear in high risk primary prevention patients. Please refer to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amjmed.com\/article\/S0002-9343(11)00996-X\/abstract\">Professor C. Michael Minder\u2019s latest paper on the\u00a0<em>American Journal of Medicine\u00a0<\/em>website<\/a>. It is a masterpiece. Just like William Shakespeare\u2019s\u00a0<em>Much Ado About Nothing<\/em>. My favorite line from that play was \u201cLet every eye negotiate for itself and trust no agent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>All of us await the ATP guidelines and how to make sense of the benefits and possible risks of the hyperglycemia seen with the more potent statins. In the meantime, please read Dr. Topol\u2019s book. It is fabulous and thought-provoking. And by the way if your statin patient\u2019s glucose goes above 125, simply remind them of the importance of dropping a few pounds and exercising more. Eat Less, eat smarter and move more. A <em>lot<\/em> more.<\/p>\n<p>I look forward to teeing it up with my friend,\u00a0and trusted mentor Eric Topol at Torrey Pines and Congressional sometime in 2012!\u00a0 Dr.Topol may prove to be correct on this topic but my view of statins is much more optimistic in high risk primary prevention patients.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let me start by saying that I am proud to have Eric Topol as a friend and a trusted advisor over the past 20 years. His work has been an inspiration to cardiovascular health professionals for several decades. 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