{"id":5741,"date":"2008-03-19T12:12:37","date_gmt":"2008-03-19T17:12:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/PaulSax\/index.php\/2008\/03\/19\/how-long-have-i-got-doc\/"},"modified":"2008-03-19T12:12:37","modified_gmt":"2008-03-19T17:12:37","slug":"how-long-have-i-got-doc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/how-long-have-i-got-doc\/2008\/03\/19\/","title":{"rendered":"How long have I got, Doc?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some aspects of seeing a patient newly-diagnosed with HIV haven&#8217;t changed much over the years &#8212; for example, the emotions in the room remain a mix of fear, shame (note to world: this is <em>still<\/em> a highly stigmatized disease), incredulity, and ultimately relief in finding a clinician who is comfortable with the condition.<\/p>\n<p>But a lot <em>has<\/em> changed, of course, due to the availability of effective antiretroviral therapy. To illustrate, here&#8217;s a commonly-asked question, especially from newly-diagnosed patients and their loved ones &#8212; in fact, I heard it just last week:<\/p>\n<p>How long can a person live with HIV these days?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also a popular question I get from my friends, family, non-HIV\/ID colleagues, medical students, cab drivers, and anyone else who happens to find out what I do for a living. You&#8217;d think with so many people asking, I might have a better idea of the answer, but for now all I can manage is an estimate.<\/p>\n<p>I work with a group that does computer simulations of HIV disease; a paper published a couple of years ago <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/17063130?ordinalpos=15&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum\">conservatively estimated the survival time after a patient enters care to be 24.2 years. <\/a>For the super patients &#8212; never miss a pill, quit smoking, wear seat belts, and remind <em>us<\/em> about scheduled health maintenance tasks &#8212; this is no doubt an underestimate. But it might be an overestimate for their <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Highlights_for_Children#Goofus_.26_Gallant\">Goofus<\/a> counterparts, especially if they are coinfected with hepatitis C, engage in various insalubrious addictions, and have that selective inability to understand the words on the pill bottles dispensed by the pharmacy.<\/p>\n<p>So what do I say when asked this question? One thing I emphatically do <span style=\"font-style: italic\">not<\/span> say is &#8220;24.2 years &#8212; that&#8217;s 8,833 days, in case you&#8217;re wondering, so plan your magazine subscriptions accordingly.&#8221; First, this estimate was derived from averaging a million &#8220;patients&#8221; going through a computer model, and do not apply to an individual; second, who knows what&#8217;s going to happen 5, 10, 20+ years from now? Instead, I provide some reassuring generalization, such as, &#8220;No one should die of AIDS anymore &#8212; treatment today is <span style=\"font-style: italic\">that<\/span> good.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This usually does the trick. But any other advice for managing this tough question would be most welcome.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some aspects of seeing a patient newly-diagnosed with HIV haven&#8217;t changed much over the years &#8212; for example, the emotions in the room remain a mix of fear, shame (note to world: this is still a highly stigmatized disease), incredulity, and ultimately relief in finding a clinician who is comfortable with the condition. 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