{"id":5982,"date":"2015-04-15T06:12:30","date_gmt":"2015-04-15T10:12:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/?p=5982"},"modified":"2015-04-15T06:12:30","modified_gmt":"2015-04-15T10:12:30","slug":"does-scientific-language-come-across-as-wishy-washy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/does-scientific-language-come-across-as-wishy-washy\/2015\/04\/15\/","title":{"rendered":"Does Scientific Language Come Across as Wishy-Washy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/04\/milk-toast.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright  wp-image-5983\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/04\/milk-toast-281x300.jpg\" alt=\"milk toast\" width=\"159\" height=\"170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/04\/milk-toast-281x300.jpg 281w, https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/04\/milk-toast.jpg 514w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 159px) 100vw, 159px\" \/><\/a>I had the opportunity to interview author Seth Mnookin recently for a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxfordjournals.org\/our_journals\/ofid\/podcasts.html\" target=\"_blank\">podcast on <em>Open Forum Infectious Diseases,<\/em> <\/a>and it was a real treat. He\u2019s Associate Director of the graduate program in Scientific Writing at MIT, and the author of the <a href=\"http:\/\/sethmnookin.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Panic Virus: The True Story Behind the Vaccine-Autism Controversy<\/em>.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Not surprisingly given his title, Seth thinks a lot about how language conveys information about health and science. While researching the topic of vaccine safety for his book, he discovered\u00a0the striking difference in how the various sides communicated their message to the public:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When you had an NIH official or a CDC official making a statement and then you had a parent, it almost seemed to me like they were talking in two different languages \u2026 So when a doctor or Harvey Fineberg would be on TV and say, \u201cWell based on all of the evidence that we have, we\u2019re reasonably confident that there\u2019s no concern that vaccines cause autism that we know of at this point, etc.\u201d In science that means, \u201cYeah, we\u2019re really sure about this.\u201d But in English that means, \u201cYeah we have no idea what we\u2019re talking about and we\u2019re about to find out that actually we\u2019ve been doing something horribly wrong\u2026\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And the parents challenging vaccine safety? They couldn\u2019t be more sure of themselves:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A great example of this is when Jenny McCarthy was on Larry King\u2019s show and she was talking about her child, and she said, \u201cThe story that I have about my child is science.\u201d [She also\u00a0said something almost exactly like this on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2014\/11\/08\/jenny_mccarthys_new_war_on_science_vaccines_autism_and_the_medias_shame\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Oprah<\/em><\/a>.] A point that I try to stress is that actually the plural of anecdote is not data, and that the fact that there is a story to be told about something does not make it true.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In research,\u00a0we&#8217;re taught to be curious, questioning, and skeptical &#8212; but this doesn&#8217;t play well on the big stage. If the message is as clear as the overwhelming case for vaccine safety and efficacy, we have to just say it.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s\u00a0more interesting stuff in the full interview, including how he chose to tackle this tricky subject,\u00a0how big of a problem the hard-core anti-vaccine activists actually are right now, and when the police start to take seriously various threats on your life (not kidding about that, unfortunately).<\/p>\n<p>Full podcast is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxfordjournals.org\/our_journals\/ofid\/podcasts.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>, transcript <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxfordjournals.org\/our_journals\/ofid\/mnookin_interview_by_paul_sax.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had the opportunity to interview author Seth Mnookin recently for a podcast on Open Forum Infectious Diseases, and it was a real treat. He\u2019s Associate Director of the graduate program in Scientific Writing at MIT, and the author of the The Panic Virus: The True Story Behind the Vaccine-Autism Controversy. Not surprisingly given his [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,9],"tags":[967],"class_list":["post-5982","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-infectious-diseases","category-policy","tag-vaccines"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5982","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5982"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5982\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5982"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5982"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5982"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}