{"id":8232,"date":"2016-11-13T16:37:36","date_gmt":"2016-11-13T21:37:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/?p=8232"},"modified":"2016-11-13T16:52:27","modified_gmt":"2016-11-13T21:52:27","slug":"poll-starting-hiv-elite-controllers-antiretroviral-therapy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/poll-starting-hiv-elite-controllers-antiretroviral-therapy\/2016\/11\/13\/","title":{"rendered":"Poll:  Should We Be Starting HIV &#8220;Elite Controllers&#8221; On Antiretroviral Therapy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(Note to readers: This will have <em>nothing to do with the election<\/em> &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/guessing-idhiv-doctors-political-affiliation-easy\/2016\/10\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\">for obvious reasons.<\/a> Yes, there&#8217;s a\u00a0poll at the end, but your political views <em>will not matter one bit.<\/em> There, I feel better.)<\/p>\n<p>Just received this email from a longstanding <a href=\"http:\/\/www.idibaps.org\/aidsresearch\/teams\/clinteam1\/clinteam1.html\" target=\"_blank\">leader in HIV care and research:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I would like to ask for you a favor. I am preparing an elite controllers talk for the next GESIDA meeting that will take place in Madrid on December 2nd 2016 and I am doing a very short survey to international experts <em>[thanks very much, Jose!]<\/em>. I would appreciate very much if you can answers these 2 questions:<\/p>\n<p>1)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Would you treat with ART elite controllers (patients with CD4&gt;500 and longstanding\u00a0HIV VL&lt;50 copies\/mL)?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No<\/p>\n<p>2)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Please, explain your answer in 1-2 short sentences<\/p>\n<p>Thanks again for considering my proposal and for your time.<\/p>\n<p>Warm regards,<\/p>\n<p>Jose Miro<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is a <em>tough question<\/em>, and if you&#8217;re wondering why,\u00a0let me provide a bit of background for those who don&#8217;t do ID\/HIV medicine regularly.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/11\/22065301079_237858c25a_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-8234\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/11\/22065301079_237858c25a_m.jpg\" alt=\"22065301079_237858c25a_m\" width=\"240\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a>&#8220;HIV controllers&#8221; are those rare individuals who have HIV infection, but\u00a0their immune systems somehow &#8220;controls&#8221; viral replication without the need for antiretroviral medications. How common is it? Estimates vary, but it&#8217;s certainly no more than 1% of those with HIV. (Here&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/journals.lww.com\/aidsonline\/Abstract\/2009\/06010\/Prevalence_and_comparative_characteristics_of.14.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">one representative study<\/a>\u00a0from France.) Rarity notwithstanding,\u00a0every experienced HIV\/ID clinician has seen at least one of these\u00a0patients, and those of us doing this for a while have several, most\u00a0of whom we&#8217;ve been following for years.<\/p>\n<p>At the extreme end of the controller phenotype are people\u00a0sometimes termed &#8220;elite&#8221; controllers, meaning we can&#8217;t detect HIV in their blood using even our current highly\u00a0sensitive viral load assays &#8212; their\u00a0results always come back &#8220;Target not detected&#8221; (in other words, &#8220;undetectable&#8221;), and their CD4 cell counts remain normal.<\/p>\n<p>Not surprisingly, these elite controllers are the source of immense interest to researchers, who have long believed that these patients&#8217;\u00a0immunologic response to HIV &#8212; a usually progressive, lethal\u00a0infection &#8212; might hold the clue for immunotherapy, or an effective vaccine, or both. Not only that, but their &#8220;elite&#8221; status allows them to board the plane first even when traveling coach, and grants them free WiFi and an automatic room upgrade when checking into fine hotels.<\/p>\n<p>(Just wanted to see if you were listening.)<\/p>\n<p>Back to the science: \u00a0But all is not completely normal in these lucky HIV controllers. Some have elevated levels of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/jid.oxfordjournals.org\/content\/197\/1\/126.full\" target=\"_blank\">immune activation and inflammation<\/a> &#8212; perhaps a marker that their immune systems are working overtime to control HIV. Might this insalubrious inflammatory milieu cause <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC4416122\/\" target=\"_blank\">lymphoid fibrosis?<\/a> Or increase <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/19390417?dopt=Abstract&amp;holding=npg\" target=\"_blank\">the risk of cardiovascular disease?<\/a>\u00a0One\u00a0provocative study showed that HIV controllers were admitted to the hospital <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC4447832\/\" target=\"_blank\">more often than HIV infected patients who were on antiretroviral therapy.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, this raises the question Jose posed in his email &#8212; should we start HIV controllers\u00a0on antiretroviral therapy? Ten years ago, the answer was easy &#8212; NO &#8212; and we told them this\u00a0repeatedly. Your immune system is doing what our antiretrovirals set out to do, which is control viral replication. Not only that, it&#8217;s doing so without side effects. <em>You&#8217;re lucky &#8212; you don&#8217;t need treatment.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>But times most definitely have changed. In addition to the above data on immune activation and inflammation, HIV treatment\u00a0is now so much safer. Plus,\u00a0we have the results of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nejm.org\/doi\/full\/10.1056\/NEJMoa1506816\" target=\"_blank\">START<\/a> study and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nejm.org\/doi\/full\/10.1056\/NEJMoa1600693#t=article\" target=\"_blank\">HPTN 052<\/a>, showing that HIV treatment is beneficial even to those with CD4 &gt; 500, and that suppressive therapy makes\u00a0people with HIV essentially non-contagious. As a\u00a0result, <em>all<\/em> guidelines now explicitly state that HIV treatment is indicated for <em>all<\/em> people with HIV. Doesn&#8217;t that include HIV controllers?<\/p>\n<p>The reason this isn&#8217;t so clear\u00a0comes down to three\u00a0remaining issues, all of them significant. Two are uncertainties from clinical science, the third an emotional one from our patients.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>For elite controllers, there&#8217;s no proof of clinical benefit or reduction in transmission risk.<\/strong> The START study showed that those with CD4 &gt; 500 benefited from starting therapy rather than waiting until the CD4 fell to &lt; 350. However, the median HIV RNA of study participants was 13,000, and while it&#8217;s not in the primary paper,\u00a0only a small fraction of participants could have had HIV RNA &lt; 500. Imagine how few (if any?) were &#8220;elite controllers&#8221;. Similarly, would HPTN 052 demonstrate a reduction in the risk of HIV transmission even among those who started the study with undetectable viral loads? Doubtful.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Patients\u00a0who start ART often have some residual abnormalities in immune activation and inflammation &#8212; will the same hold true for elite controllers?<\/strong>\u00a0In patients on long-term suppressive ART, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed?term=%22Clinical+infectious+diseases+%3A+an+official+publication+of+the+Infectious+Diseases+Society+of+America%22%5BJour%5D+AND+Wada%5Bfirst+author%5D&amp;cmd=detailssearch\" target=\"_blank\">abnormalities in inflammatory and immunologic markers persist in many\u00a0patients.<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0Moreover, the number of elite controllers who have been treated with ART and studied intensively is very small, limiting our ability to make firm conclusions.\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC3795031\/\" target=\"_blank\">This study<\/a><\/strong> looked at 4 such patients treated with TDF\/FTC and raltegravir, showing a non-significant trend downward over 24 weeks of therapy.\u00a0More such patients are being studied\u00a0in <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/clinicaltrials.gov\/ct2\/show\/NCT01777997\" target=\"_blank\">ACTG A5308<\/a><\/strong>, which is an ongoing prospective clinical study of ART in HIV controllers (I&#8217;m on the study team) &#8212; but until we have those results, the benefits of ART even on surrogate markers for this population are unknown.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Most HIV controllers\u00a0don&#8217;t want to start treatment.<\/strong> We&#8217;ve been telling some of them\u00a0for years &#8212; even decades &#8212; that\u00a0they are special, and that they don&#8217;t need treatment\u00a0since their immune systems are doing all the work. Not surprisingly, after hearing this for so long, it&#8217;s hard for them to hear otherwise, in particular since they still <em>feel<\/em> fine. It&#8217;s difficult\u00a0to convey the benefits of HIV therapy by using the concepts of &#8220;T-cell activation&#8221; or (even worse), &#8220;%CD38+HLA-DR+ CD4+ T cells&#8221;.<br \/>\nOur experience with A5308 when we approached HIV controllers about participating was fascinating &#8212; even those who have been enormously generous to the research community, providing\u00a0blood and tissue samples to numerous investigators for years, simply didn&#8217;t want to take HIV meds. One even told me he\u00a0would prefer something <em>more<\/em> experimental than ART, such as an HIV vaccine or novel combination of cytokines.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>OK, that&#8217;s enough &#8212; much more than the 1-2 sentences requested by Jose, sorry about that!<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s time to decide, please take the poll below (all are encouraged\u00a0to participate).\u00a0And this time (ahem), there&#8217;s <em>no wrong answer.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"polls-39\" class=\"wp-polls\">\n\t<form id=\"polls_form_39\" class=\"wp-polls-form\" action=\"\/index.php\" method=\"post\">\n\t\t<p style=\"display: none;\"><input type=\"hidden\" id=\"poll_39_nonce\" name=\"wp-polls-nonce\" value=\"943aa52048\" \/><\/p>\n\t\t<p style=\"display: none;\"><input type=\"hidden\" name=\"poll_id\" value=\"39\" \/><\/p>\n\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Should HIV \"elite controllers\" start antiretroviral therapy?<\/strong><\/p><div id=\"polls-39-ans\" class=\"wp-polls-ans\"><ul class=\"wp-polls-ul\">\n\t\t<li><input type=\"radio\" id=\"poll-answer-124\" name=\"poll_39\" value=\"124\" \/> <label for=\"poll-answer-124\">No -- they are clinically well, all medications have side effects, and the benefits aren't proven.<\/label><\/li>\n\t\t<li><input type=\"radio\" id=\"poll-answer-125\" name=\"poll_39\" value=\"125\" \/> <label for=\"poll-answer-125\">Yes -- they have some immunologic abnormalities, treatment is much safer today, and everyone with HIV should be treated.<\/label><\/li>\n\t\t<\/ul><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><input type=\"button\" name=\"vote\" value=\"   Vote   \" class=\"Buttons\" onclick=\"poll_vote(39);\" \/><\/p><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"#ViewPollResults\" onclick=\"poll_result(39); return false;\" title=\"View Results Of This Poll\">View Results<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n\t<\/form>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Note to readers: This will have nothing to do with the election &#8212; for obvious reasons. Yes, there&#8217;s a\u00a0poll at the end, but your political views will not matter one bit. There, I feel better.) Just received this email from a longstanding leader in HIV care and research: I would like to ask for you [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[1144,423],"class_list":["post-8232","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-health-care","tag-elite-controllers","tag-hiv"],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8232","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8232"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8232\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8232"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8232"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nejm.org\/hiv-id-observations\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8232"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}