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  1. Benoit Lemire
    June 28, 2025

    Em, then what do you make of Zoster vaccines? Vaccines can do other things 😉

    I use one dose of the HBV vaccine as a diagnostic. “You say you’re cured? Well, show me the money.” If you bump up, then I’ll leave you alone. If you don’t, then I’ll start being suspicious.

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  2. Thomas A Smith
    June 28, 2025

    I run a free clinic and see many undocumented immigrants and ex-convicts and are beginning to treat coinfection hepatitis B and C.

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  3. Paul Bunce
    June 28, 2025

    Thanks for raising this important and common issue.

    In these cases I often give a single dose of vaccine to assess for an anamnestic response. If anti-HBs develops, I take that as evidence of immune memory. If not, especially in someone at risk for immunosuppression, I’m more cautious and monitor more closely — though I agree the best approach to follow-up isn’t well defined.

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  4. David Lee
    June 28, 2025

    I’ve always worried about false positive hep B core antibodies and have vaccinated accordingly. Very interesting article though.

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  5. Ryan Maves
    June 28, 2025

    This comes up in our transplant/oncology ID clinic on occasion. My personal feeling is that vaccination is a low-risk/high-reward intervention in most of these patients. Assuming their HBV DNA is negative, you are providing protection to those people whose HBcAb is a false positive, and we hypothetically could reduce reactivation risk for the others – maybe not enough to prevent the need for secondary antiviral prophylaxis for patients getting rituximab, but maybe enough for those undergoing future kidney transplantation, for example.

    Anyways, I don’t see a downside to vaccinating if it’s feasible. But as Dr. Kim said above, more data are needed.

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    • Paul Sax
      June 28, 2025

      Thanks for the comment. Your approach is similar to the rationale given to me by someone on the HIV opportunistic infections guidelines committee. However, vaccines are low risk, but not zero risk (there has been some controversy over Heplisav and CV risk, for example), and they certainly have a cost. I’d like to see at least some data that this “core alone” population benefits (the “reward” part!) from the vaccine before adopting it as a standard strategy.

      -Paul

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  6. Liz Jenny
    June 28, 2025

    From my reading about reactivation Hep B in those with +hep B core, risk of reactivation increases as titer of HBsAb declines, so if vaccination can bump Ab, that is “probably” beneficial.

    One of my HIV patients, had Hep B s Ab, core Ab “back in the day”–very poor adherence, eventually ESRD, so regular Hep B monitoring, eventually Hep B s Ag+ at low titer, with low or undetectable PCR, but even later (still untreated HIV), very high HBV PCR. So, once infected, always infected.

    I saw a similar reactivation in a 70s yo West African man with a heme malignancy who was believed to be neg for all markers of HBV but after many rounds of tx of his heme malignancy, he had unexpected florid Hep B—and detective Jennyavita (me, to continue the metaphor) found ancient serologies with + Hep B s Ab in the EMR that were positive since in my experience older Africans have near universal HBV infection. So, once infected, always infected.

    It is worth vaccinating to bump HBsAb probably, and certainly worth it, if isolated core is likely false positive.

    But, once infected, always infected.

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  7. Keith Holden
    June 28, 2025

    Thanks for this interesting post. I’ve always loved “pearls” since I was in training. Especially ID pearls.

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  8. Mimi Breed
    June 29, 2025

    Thanks for the noir movie melange, a nostalic reminder of when the outlaws were in the shadows, not running the Federal government.

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  9. Annie Luetkemeyer
    June 30, 2025

    Thanks for the excellent piece.
    As raised by some of the other comments- one aspect to consider is whether vaccination of isolated c Ab (+) PWH will reduce the likelihood of reactivation when switching to HBV-sparing ART. We know the risk is higher if isolated cAb vs core Ab (+)/S ab (+) – the US VA VACS study (Denyer IDWeek 2024) and others have shown this. To my knowledge, no data on whether vaccinating isolated c ab (+) will reduce the risk of reactivation but data on this will be welcome as many HBV-sparing ART options are now available or in the pipeline. This would be a very welcome benefit of vaccination isolated core Ab(+).

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  10. Caroline Poplin MD FACP
    July 1, 2025

    Thanks SO much! I have wondered about this for decades!

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  11. Gordon Huth
    July 1, 2025

    Still dazed and confused by the lone HBcAB+, but an informative and clear-as-can-be piece, given what we know and don’t know. And worth re-reading until we know more.

    Also some stimulating comments from the audience.

    Thanks, again!

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  12. Karine Rozenberg-Ben-Droe
    July 2, 2025

    One additional and often missed false positive HBcAb can be seen in patients receiving IVIG infusions. These passive antibodies should clear on their own within 8 to 12 weeks post infusion.

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  13. Harmeet Singh Gill
    July 2, 2025

    If patient not vaccinated for Hep A, I vaccinate with combo vaccine for A and B with 3 doses

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  14. Babak
    July 5, 2025

    There is a 5th possibility in the setting of HBAg mutations where testing leads to false-negative HBsAg results. This occurs when monoclonal instead of polyclonal hepatitis B surface antibodies are used in enzyme immunoassays for capture and/or detection of HBsAg.
    Source: Uptodate

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  15. Emily Cartwright
    July 8, 2025

    Thank you for this interesting post on isolated anti-HBc! A common clinical conundrum. One other “suspect” I would add to your list is “a mutant HBsAg strain” – this would be diagnosed by sending an HBV DNA and the quantitative level would be high (rather than low-ish like in occult B infection). That is why I think checking an HBV DNA is important (despite not being recommended by the OI guidelines).

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  16. Maggie Beiser
    July 9, 2025

    Hi Paul,
    Thanks for tackling this maddening conundrum.

    In your post you note that guidelines recommend vaccinating those with isolated anti-HBc+, but I have seen very different recommendations for those living with HIV vs those not living with HIV. Can you share the guidelines you cite?

    In my previous searching I have found this from an old CDC page “Hepatitis B Questions and Answers for Health Professionals”:
    “Is there any benefit or risk in vaccinating a person who has been infected with HBV?
    Persons who have already been infected with HBV will receive no benefit from vaccination. However, there is no risk to a previously infected person who receives vaccination…Persons who are anti-HBc positive should be counseled about their prior exposure to HBV and potential risk for HBV reactivation.”
    -https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/117930

    People with isolated anti-HBc should be vaccinated with one standard dose of HepB vaccine (one dose of Heplisav-B, or Engerix-B, or Recombivax HB), and anti-HBs titers should be checked 1 to 2 months after vaccination (BII). If the anti-HBs titer is ≥100 mIU/mL, no further vaccination is needed, but if the titer is 18 months compared with only 23% of those who achieved a titer of 10 to 100 mIU/mL.61 If anti-HBs quantitative titers are not available, then the complete series of HepB vaccine should be completed followed by qualitative anti-HBs testing
    https://clinicalinfo.hiv.gov/en/guidelines/hiv-clinical-guidelines-adult-and-adolescent-opportunistic-infections/hepatitis-b-virus

    When working with a population with high risk for HBV exposure (people who inject drugs, people living with HCV and/or HIV), it seems very reasonable to assume prior infection is the explanation for this titer pattern. How, then, to reconcile these drastically different recommendations?

    I had been educated by a hepatologist that the absence of circulating HBV virus in the blood does not eliminate the risk of HBV reactivation with HCV treatment, and so, since your clinical management would not change (no matter what you would educate the patient on the low but potentially serious risk and monitor for sxs of reactivation), and there is additional cost and delay to checking this lab, checking an HBV VL is not necessary.

    In our HCV treatment program we are not routinely checking HBV VLs or vaccinating everyone we identify with an isolated anti-HBc+, except in cases of PLWH, though even that data feels shaky to me as it was following 54 patients to monitor for an anti-HBs titer response only, and did not evaluate reactivation at all. In hundreds of folks with HCV and isolated anti-HBc titers, we have had zero cases of reactivation.

    Other cohorts have described very very low rates of reactivation in the isolated anti-HBc+ cohort undergoing HCV treatment. (https://journals.lww.com/hep/abstract/2017/07000/evaluation_of_hepatitis_b_reactivation_among.6.aspx; https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1386653217301610?via%3Dihub).

    In terms of this risk among people with HIV undergoing an ART switch, case reports like this one (https://www.natap.org/2023/HIV/brief_report__hepatitis_b_infection_or.9.pdf) showed HBV reactivation among 4 individuals with a range of titer patterns, including an individual with anti-HBs+ only.

    The risk of HBV reactivation with rituximab and other B-cell depleting meds seems much more concerning and better understood. I am not convinced that the data we have based our HCV and HIV assessment and management guidelines for anti-HBc+ patients are as sound.

    We need recommendations grounded in large cohort data sets, focused on the concerning outcomes, not just titer levels or patterns, and with consideration of the practical and public health implications for the marginalized populations and health care settings most effected.

    Thanks for listening and would love your thoughts!
    maggie

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  17. DVH
    September 22, 2025

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